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Tuesday, August 16, 2005

Children need to be getting they edumacation...

With the new school year fast approaching, the topic of implementing "Ebonics" into public school curriculum has resurfaced. Some believe that if African-American children are taught in a language they can easily comprehend, they will be more apt to excel. Well, well, well... ain't that be something! The irony is astounding. In the seventies, there was a study done that placed two children- one black, one white- in similar environments. Both children excelled at the same rate. This study confirmed that black children are capable of learning and excelling when placed in an environment that is conducive to doing so. Maybe the problem isn't one of "language" but a broader problem of environment.

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Blogger Oddybobo said...

I have been saying that it is the environment. Teaching them Ebonics is simply keeping them back. Sorry, it may be ok for the streets, but not ok in the board room. What happened to teachers and schools actually teaching? Enough feel good stuff, learn these kids to read and write!

Wed Aug 17, 01:05:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> Enough feel good stuff, learn these kids to read and write!

See Imara, Oddy uses EBONICS, and she's a hot shot lawyer!!!Use just hatin on a playeristic player whiles yous a plageristic plagerer!!!

Thu Aug 18, 04:34:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Patches said...

There is a very good article in this months Economist Magazine on Race in America, “The Black Hole”. (http://www.economist.com/opinion/displayStory.cfm?story_id=4247114 ) Makes one think on things from education to voting rights.

Fri Aug 19, 06:30:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

Oddybobo be knowin' what she be tawkin' 'bout. I bet she be usin dem big fancy words en stuff in da courtroom. Da Judge be like, "You go on ahead wit yo bad self, Miss Oddybobo."

Soundboyz, something tells me either you have an incredibly high IQ, or you slept through most of english class. Haven't quite figured out which yet! LOL!!

Fri Aug 19, 01:22:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

Patches, as always, thanks for the article. It was very interesting.

The article makes several great points. Blacks are not necessarily "better off" since the C.R.A. yet we desperately needed that Act in order to move forward. It's undeniable that Blacks come from a great stock of people. We have achieved incredible things dispite horrible odds. Unfortunately, we have lost a tremendous amount of self pride and sense of community along the way.

I understand the need for Affirmative Action, and the like, yet I can't help but wonder if it has contributed- in some way- to our current state. In a previous post, I wrote about the stories my grandmother would tell about segregation. The one thing that always struck me was that there was a great sense of pride and self respect. Blacks were responsible for Blacks and they took that responsibility seriously. If you were cuttin' up, Miss Pearle from down the street was going to whoop your behind and call your mother and you could expect a whoopin' from every house you passed until you got home! That doesn't happen today, and I think that in some ways it has contributed to the lack many things.

Fri Aug 19, 01:56:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

^ Imara, you need your ass whooped!!!

Fri Aug 19, 02:57:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Patches said...

Lack of self respect and lack of discipline seems to be across the board especially among the young. The way a lot young women allow themselves to be treated is shameful. I would think that being taught to read, write and speak English would raise ones self esteem more then having Ebonics taught in schools. But saying that if teaching Ebonics will get one a good job and a better life then I’m all for it.

Fri Aug 19, 02:58:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Thanks for the link Patches, I will check it out!!!

Fri Aug 19, 02:58:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> Lack of self respect and lack of discipline seems to be across the board especially among the young.

This is the problem Patches!!!Young people don't have to worry about being disciplined anymore. They are getting away with more and more , and there is little that a parent can do!!

Also, I think that the huge divorce rate has a big impact on the behavior of children!!!

Fri Aug 19, 03:02:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Did anyone hear about CNN using Ebonics in their newscast? Please tell me that this is NOT so!!It's almost as if American society is saying, if you think this way then you are not a grown person to be taken seriously!They are saying that if you watch CNN then you must be ignorant, uneducated, and illiterate!!!And if you watch Fox, then you are informed, literate and educated!!!

Fri Aug 19, 03:09:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Patches said...

Here is two looks at school discipline and race.



Fri Aug 19, 03:40:00 PM 2005  
Blogger KR said...

The only way anyone can hope to achieve parity in a society is to learn to speak the language of that society, otherwise, you will awlays be marginalized. This is regardless of race or gender, country of origin, or country you've landed in. If you cannot understand the language, or the majority in that society cannot understand you, you are laboring under a horrible disadvantage. Thus, I am as horrified by the idea of teaching in ebonics as I am by teaching children in any other language. You may advance their knowledge of 'what', but you do not make the 'how' possible.

Mon Aug 22, 12:18:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

PATCHES: I would think that being taught to read, write and speak English would raise ones self esteem more then having Ebonics taught in schools. But saying that if teaching Ebonics will get one a good job and a better life then I’m all for it.

True, Patches but what if that one who gains the advantage is at the expense of many? I agree with Kelly. We must all be able to function in the society in which we live or we will be marginalized. We need to adopt the mind-set of "each one teach one". Now that's truly, "No Child Left Behind".

Fri Aug 26, 01:32:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

SB: Did anyone hear about CNN using Ebonics in their newscast?

I didn't hear that one, however, I have noticed a lot more people of color on their airwaves. They must be on to something because their ratings have been better than FOX lately. Could it be a sign that the tide is turning? You can only cover up the stench of bullsh*t for so long.

Fri Aug 26, 01:35:00 PM 2005  

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