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Thursday, June 23, 2005

Blacks should've been grateful for segregation...


I can still remember the stories Big Mamma would tell us about the good ol' days of segregation. As a young girl growing up in the early 70's, I dreamed of living in the world she spoke about. I dreamed of going to an all black school. Dreamed of having teachers that looked like me. Dreamed of being surrounded by folks that understood my history and were as willing to teach me as I was eager to learn. Instead, I went to a predominately white suburban school, where I was told I would get the best education. I didn't have any teachers that looked like me, nor were they as willing to teach me as I was eager to learn. Unfortunately, I paid a grave price for this "quality" education. The price resulted in my lack of confidence and shattered self-image. It wasn't until later in life that these qualities would be restored.

Although there were many harmful aspects of segregation, there have been many obvious detrimental effects to the Black community due to desegregation. Black businesses- especially farms- don't flourish like they use to. In 1920, Black Farmers owned 14% of this countries farms. Today, that number is less than 1%. This represents a loss of 13,000,000 acres of black owned land.

Only 50% of black males graduate from high school. And only a 1/3 of them go on to higher education- most because of athletic scholarships. Less than one percent of college enrolled black men actually graduate. Enrollment at HBCUs is so low, that many have been forced to close their doors, due to the lack of endowments and federal funding. At predominately white colleges, due to the push of affirmative action, many have actively recruited Black students in order to meet their mandated quotas. Unfortunately, a significant number of these students fail and drop out because they are ill prepared to compete academically- mostly in part because of the substandard education that they received in their "integrated" primary and secondary schools.

During segregation, the Black community was filled with black lawyers, black doctors, black teachers, black dentists, and black business owners. There was even a huge black upper class society. Through desegregation, blacks are being systematically forced into a permanent underclass. The pride that was once so prevalent in the community has faded with the infiltration of drugs and crime. I know that many people sacrificed their life so that I could receive that segregated quality education. I know that things weren't all good under Jim Crow. I just wish we could have some of those good things back in our community.

48 Comments:

Blogger soundboyz said...

The only thing that I would add to this Imara, is the term "separate but equal"!

Thu Jun 23, 04:04:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

Unfortunately, Soundboyz, that was the only real downside that I can see. There was not "seperate but equal". Most of my family is from the South, and they often say if that were the case, they would be in favor of segregation... even today!

Thu Jun 23, 04:12:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

I know Imara. that's the one snafu. If there could be separate but equal, you are exactly right, segregation would have worked!!But, we're talking about racism , and nothing is equal!!

Thu Jun 23, 04:16:00 PM 2005  
Blogger KR said...

I would love to share an opinion on this, but I don't have one. It is beyond my experience. Trying to empathize is the best I can do.

Fri Jun 24, 09:16:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

^Thanks Kelly.

Fri Jun 24, 09:56:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>I would love to share an opinion on this, but I don't have one. It is beyond my experience. Trying to empathize is the best I can do.

Kelly has NO opinion!!!The moon must be full and blue tonight !!!Oh wait .....the moon if full and blue!!!Well, reddish blue!!!:)

Fri Jun 24, 01:11:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

Segregration today, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever! I don't think I'd really want to live in a segregated society. I just want to live in a society where everyone is treated equally. That's what will truly make this country great- to be able to draw on the strengths of all of it's citizens.

Fri Jun 24, 03:45:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

^ Sure !!!Whatever you say Strom Thurman!!

>I just want to live in a society where everyone is treated equally. That's what will truly make this country great- to be able to draw on the strengths of all of it's citizens.

Can't we all just get along?!?!

You sound like Rodney King right now Imara!!I think minorities would love that , but it's not the minorities that have the white supremacy problem!!!

Fri Jun 24, 03:50:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

I think it was George Wallace that said that... I'll have to check my facts and get back to you on that one.

Why is that? I mean, why are some whites threatened by minorities?

Fri Jun 24, 03:53:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Patches said...

Watching on the morning news, the free fire zones that are parts of Cincinnati I can't believe that ending segregation is the cause, I know most of the shooting is about drugs but what are drugs about. Racism, I hope not. (Money?)

Kelly, it's a honeymoon:)

Fri Jun 24, 03:56:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Imara, I noticed that SOME whites are quick to claim that racism is a thing of the past and that they want the Federal government out of their business so that we can all live equally and happily ever after !!!That's just Klan talk for, As soon as the commie loving federals leave, I'm a gonna lynch your black ass!!!!

Say , did you ever see a movie called "Undercover in the KKK"? I saw it a few days ago, and it is based on actual events that took place . It was very enlightening to see how the Klan operates!!It reminds me of the "Dukes of Hazzard" theme."Just some good 'ol boys , never meanin' no harm"!!The only problem is that they think that they don't mean any harm because they're doing God's work!!!I did notice the correlation between the Klan and right winged Christians!!They are one in the same!!!

Fri Jun 24, 03:57:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> I think it was George Wallace that said that... I'll have to check my facts and get back to you on that one.


Strom Thurman...George Wallace......What's the difference?

Fri Jun 24, 04:00:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>Why is that? I mean, why are some whites threatened by minorities?

Penis size!!!

Fri Jun 24, 04:00:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Patches said...

Little off subject, but taking on Big Bird seemed to be a big mistake, after all Big Bird is a BIG BIRD.

Thursday, the Republican-controlled House, by a vote of 284 to 140, approved a measure to restore $100 million that had been cut from the corporation's $400 million budget last week by the House Appropriations Committee.

Fri Jun 24, 04:03:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>Watching on the morning news, the free fire zones that are parts of Cincinnati I can't believe that ending segregation is the cause, I know most of the shooting is about drugs but what are drugs about. Racism, I hope not. (Money?)

Patches, blacks in the hood couldn't tell you the first thing about how to ship 10 tons of cocaine into the US. They almost always get it from someone who gets it from someone and so on!!As you pointed out before Patches, the US government has been guilty of dealing in illicit drugs , and I am convinced that they dump it on the inner city where minorities are centralized.

Fri Jun 24, 04:05:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> Little off subject, but taking on Big Bird seemed to be a big mistake, after all Big Bird is a BIG BIRD.

Thursday, the Republican-controlled House, by a vote of 284 to 140, approved a measure to restore $100 million that had been cut from the corporation's $400 million budget last week by the House Appropriations Committee.

Patches, I did hear about this!!!I am pleased to know that our government realized the need to keep educational children's programming available to the masses!!

I also heard that some Republicans claimed that Big Bird was a Billionaire!!!Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!!!

Fri Jun 24, 04:10:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Benjamin Franklin Gates said...

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Fri Jun 24, 04:56:00 PM 2005  
Blogger KR said...

Something unrelated, and yet not. The story of a "gringo cracker"
http://waiterrant.blogspot.com/2005/06/gringo-cracker-we-need-new-dishwasher.html

Sat Jun 25, 10:56:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

^ Kelly, I read that post. It was very entertaining!!!Although the situation was the result of a misunderstanding, my only question is : How come the guy only expected hispanics to apply for the dishwashing position?

Sat Jun 25, 11:17:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Kelly, although this was a cute story about an obvious misunderstanding , I wouldn't categorize this as a racial incident!!I think of beatings, murders,rapes,based on race as racial incidents.This was a misunderstanding, getting your ass beat by police because you're walking in a white neighborhood, or getting dragged out of your car and arrested because you were driving through Alabama, now that's real racism!!Getting dragged to death from a Chevy pick up on the back roads of Texas leaves no room for misunderstandings.:(

Sat Jun 25, 11:37:00 AM 2005  
Blogger musafir said...

Your post covered an aspect that most of us don't think about, simply because it is beyond the world we are familiar with. Soundboyz is right about what he termed "real racism". Only those at the receiving end know what it means. There is no sign that prejudices, discrimination and their corrosive impact on society will disappear any time soon.

Sat Jun 25, 12:00:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

What I remember most from my Grandmother's stories is the strong feeling of community and pride. Black folks were proud to be black, and they showed it in the way they dressed, spoke, raised their children, kept their homes, and so on. They respected and took seriously the need for a quality education. They really wanted to prove to White society that they were capable of surviving on their own. I truly believe that if black folks were given the freedom and space to truly create their own communities, they would thrive. It's happening in some places like Atlanta, Chicago and Detroit. There are pockets of communities were black folks live the "american dream". It's also amazing how white folks treat these people. They seem to not focus on the color so much! It the same thing that happens with athletes and other rich black folks. I guess maybe it's more about money, than race??

Sat Jun 25, 01:01:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>I guess maybe it's more about money, than race??

Imara, with some people , black and white, money is the main factor in how they interact with people. But when it comes to racist people, money isn't the main factor.I think it was Chris Rock who said it best: There's not one white person in this room that would trade places with me.....and I'm RICH!!

Sat Jun 25, 02:38:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Imara is a segregationist!!!

Sat Jun 25, 02:54:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

I'm not a segregationist. I'm for equal opportunity for all. I just think that maybe being seperate for awhile will help the Black community to heal.

Mon Jun 27, 02:00:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> I just think that maybe being seperate for awhile will help the Black community to heal.

Maybe the GAY black community!!!

Mon Jun 27, 02:07:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

Very funny Soundboyz!! You want your "community" to be seperate from the rest of us Black folks?! ;)

Mon Jun 27, 03:03:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Imara, I am for equality and justice for ALL, you know that!!!I do mean for ALL, Blacks , Whites, Asians, Latinos, Gays, Dorks,the elderly, the handicapped, you name it, I want them treated equally under the law!!!I don't put myself above any person!!!We are all human beings with the right to fair and equal treatment!

You missed the joke!!You wanted the black community to separate and heal!!I said maybe the GAY black community needs to separate and heal!!If I have to explain it,then it wasn't that funny!!!

Mon Jun 27, 03:30:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Imara is a GAY segregationist!!!

Mon Jun 27, 03:48:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

OT....I just saw on MSN that Rumsfeld stated that more violence is likely in Iraq!!!!Well.....NO SHIT SHERLOCK!!!Did you remember to tell Watson?

Mon Jun 27, 03:51:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Nzyme said...

Ever watched "Once Upon A Time When We Were Colored?" This post reminds me of that movie. Have a blessed day!!

Tue Jun 28, 10:51:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

Hey Nzyme! I only saw bits and pieces of it. I may have to rent it.

Tue Jun 28, 11:35:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

SB, I got your joke but I don't think you got mine. :(

I know you're slow, soooo I'lllll exxxplllaaaaiin itttt tooooo yoooouuuu. I was suggesting that you, my friend, are part of the Gay community. Just a thought...

Tue Jun 28, 11:37:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

Funny, polls show that Americans are finally willing to admit that they've had enough. The majority of Americans are willing to bet that Bush is a liar. More soldiers are dying in this quagmire they're calling a "war" and Bush is going to make a speech to convince the American people that things are going well?? He should man up and give the speech from the Oval Office. Rumsfled is a wacked-out Neo-Con who thinks that the majority of people are just plum dumb. He finally admited that we're going to be in Iraq for atleast another 12 years. Some short cheap war this is!

Tue Jun 28, 11:45:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Imara, you sound like the "Bush lied , people died" crowd!!!Do you have any solutions to this problem that you caused, instead of just being against everything?

Tue Jun 28, 12:55:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Hi Nzyme.......Why are you using Rudy Huckstable for your avitar?

Tue Jun 28, 12:57:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> SB, I got your joke but I don't think you got mine. :(

I got your silly little attempt at a joke Imara!!!It was so lame, I thought you had another joke somewhere waiting to jump out and suprise me......:(

Tue Jun 28, 12:58:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

I have several suggestions to the problems that he caused. First off, let's bring home half of our troops, and let the UN do the job they're trained to do. Unfortunately, I think we do need to keep some of our troops there. Like Powell said, we broke it, we own it. We need to help fix it. Second, we need to ensure that a legitimate government is established, not some puppet regime that we can manipulate. For the love of God, get Challibi's grubby hands off the oil! Third, if Bush has half a brain (I know that's a stretch...) he will come clean tonight and tell the American people the TRUTH. We are in over our heads, but if we all pull together we can make this thing work. We are America and we have a moral obligation to take the high road from here on out. He has to admit that he was dipping in the sauce, lost track of the mission, and now he's back and ready to roll. I think that most Americans will support him on that, and we can move forward. He needs to stop trying to earn his daddy's love by being a "war president" and realize that Jeb is the favorite, and he's just a screw up. There's one in every family- he just had the misfortune of having to take this role in his family. Then once he irons out the foreign part of his horrid presidency, he can focus on the domestic part. Good Lord. It's going to be a long 3 years, to 2008....

Tue Jun 28, 01:22:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Imara, you seem as if you have given this a little thought!!WOW!!!So, are you part of the "no war for oil" crowd?

Tue Jun 28, 01:26:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

No. I'm part of the "I'm tired of being lied to while watching my tax dollars go down the drain crowd"! The truth doesn't require a lot of thought, just an open mind.

Tue Jun 28, 01:37:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

I see Imara!!!Do you think we should privatize social security so that the president can then use money paid into social security in order to pay KBG, Halliburton(sp?), and any and all of it's subsidiaries?Please be honest and open minded!!After all, we're talking about the troops here!!!

Tue Jun 28, 02:08:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

Privatizing Social Security is more about paying Wall Street. They haven't had their piece of the pie yet. You do have a point, though, they will take what's left in SS and use it to pay the tab for KBR, Halliburton, and the like. What's going to happen to the generation that's just now entering elementry and middle school? My heart breaks for them. We have left them a horrible legacy.

Tue Jun 28, 02:38:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>What's going to happen to the generation that's just now entering elementry and middle school? My heart breaks for them. We have left them a horrible legacy.


Screw them!!!!LOL!!LOL!!LOL!!!We'll be dead, or too old to care about those little buzzards!!!Let them create their OWN war and try and take over someone else's oil reserves!!!They have to learn to do for themselves eventually!!!We can't keep babying them!!!How else are they going to learn to lie , steal and cheat?!?!?

Tue Jun 28, 02:44:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

You know, it's actually sad that Cheney said that very thing. Okay, well, not that very thing, but he said that we'll all be dead when history judges this administration, so he's not worried about it. I think it was Cheney?? Yeah, it was Cheney. I'm pretty sure??

Tue Jun 28, 03:31:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Nzyme said...

>Why are you using Rudy Huckstable for your avitar?

LOL!!! I looked like Rudy, huh?? I'll probably change it this evening!!

Tue Jun 28, 04:36:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>You know, it's actually sad that Cheney said that very thing. Okay, well, not that very thing, but he said that we'll all be dead when history judges this administration, so he's not worried about it. I think it was Cheney?? Yeah, it was Cheney. I'm pretty sure??

Imara, I think it was Bush who said that to Bob Woodward when Woodward asked him how he thought history would judge his legacy. I could be wrong though.

Wed Jun 29, 12:33:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>LOL!!! I looked like Rudy, huh?? I'll probably change it this evening!!

I wouldn't change it Nzyme, it's a very sweet picture .

Wed Jun 29, 12:37:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

Now that you say that, you're right. It was in Bush's interview with Woodward.

Wed Jun 29, 10:55:00 AM 2005  

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