Where Two Or More Are Gathered..........

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Wednesday, May 18, 2005


When President George W. Bush told the American people on March 20, 2003 that he issued a command to attack Iraq as a matter of national security, most American's stood by their President. Nobody wants to go to war, but when we do, we trust our leaders to shed blood in our name only as a last resort and only when absolutely necessary.

The Downing Street Memo that was leaked on May 1, 2005, reveals that President Bush decided to overthrow President Saddam Hussein in the summer of 2002. A full 8 months prior to the start of the war! It also reveals that Bush was determined to ensure that U.S. intelligence supported this action. The intelligence and facts relevant to WMD (the given reason for the war) were "fixed". This "Memo" is actually transcribed minutes from a meeting with British Prime Minister, Tony Blair on July 23, 2002. British officials have not disputed the authenticity of this document. The minutes detail how our government did NOT believe that Irag was a greater threat to America than other nations; how the intelligence was manipulated to sell the case for war to the American people; and how the "talk" of diplomacy was mere hollow pretense.

Regardless of political affiliation, all Americans should ask themselves: "Did Bush tell the truth when he said he would not take this country to war unless absolutely necessary?"


Blogger Two Dogs said...

Just hold your breath and this memo will be explained in its entirety or proven to be false.

Wed May 18, 10:34:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

And here I am to explain one thing. I haven't done alot of checking or reading on this, but it seems that there would be some kind of clandestine meetings between the two countries that were planning to invade Iraq. Eights months doesn't seem to be that long in planning a war, but what the Hell do I know?

Wed May 18, 10:40:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

Two Dogs, I would think the same thing about the time frame, if it weren't for the fact that at the time that this meeting was taking place, the American people were being told that we would only be taken to war as a last resort and all avenues of diplomacy were being actively pursued. He lied!

Wed May 18, 11:25:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Imara, I don't think that there's anything that anyone can do or say to change the minds of Bush supporters. It's like he has put them under some sort of mind control and nothing will cause them to disagree with anything he has said or done> I think it's quite funny actually!!!!It just goes to show people's real motivations!!!!

Wed May 18, 11:41:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

>It just goes to show people's real motivations!!!!

I actually heard on the radio someone ask why people are so willing to blindly go along with this administration, and the only answer that they could come up with is that Bush appeals to folks' bias. I think that must be the case, because when you ask most people why they support Bush, they can't give you a reason that really makes sense.

Wed May 18, 11:46:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Yea Imara, I know!!!!I don't even find it funny anymore!!!!I think people just go along with him because he appeals to that white supremacist type that feels like this country, and this world, belongs to them and they are the greatest!!!!They have no sensitivity or compassion for anyone else. They will follow this asshole into hell!!!!!I hope he leads them there !!!!!! Soon !!!!!! I want Armageddon to kick off!!!!!That way , these assholes go back to realizing that we are all only human, and they can stop this macho BULLSHIT!!!!!!!

Wed May 18, 12:00:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Goldi said...

Soundboyz - I guess this is the only Bush you can get.

We know the war is a lie. And W is a coke fiend (and I ain't talkin' soda).

Wed May 18, 12:00:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

>I think people just go along with him because he appeals to that white supremacist type.

I thought this when I heard the question! I just can't figure it out. I don't understand the people who agree with EVERYTHING this man has done. Pastor Steve said that in the Bible it says to submit to your government... and that they have done!

Wed May 18, 12:07:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> Soundboyz - I guess this is the only Bush you can get.


Imara, it's the devil!!!!I sense it really strong!!!!If you are for peace and love, you are a TARGET!!!!!If you are for helping and making a positive difference, you are a TARGET!!!!!The DEVIL is in FULL reigh NOW!!!!He will target anyone that tries to go against his plan!!!!!These assholes are really KKK types, or people who share some, if not all of their beliefs!!!!!Their tongues are sharp and their minds are DULL!!!!!They seek to make you submit to them and their ways!!!!They want to force Christianity(Catholosism) down your god damned throat because when you accept those things, you have submitted to the first trick, and that's worshipping more than ONE GOD!!!!!The Muslims are their MAIN target right now, because they still hold on to the one God theory!!!!!

Wed May 18, 12:25:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

>We know the war is a lie. And W is a coke fiend (and I ain't talkin' soda).

That's just the tip of the hypocritical iceberg. His father is a war criminal, and (as Soundboyz informed us) a pedophile, and his wife is a murderer.

Wed May 18, 12:26:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

Soundboyz, I have to tell you, I just, this second, finished a conversation with a friend who said, "Imara, watch out, the Devil is working overtime!" I thought it was just ME feeling this way.

Soundboyz, I agree, but what about Judaism? They only believe in one God, and the Christians have aligned themselves so closely with the Jews?

Wed May 18, 12:32:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>Soundboyz, I agree, but what about Judaism? They only believe in one God, and the Christians have aligned themselves so closely with the Jews?

Yea, well Imara, I believe that the Christians have figured out that they need to work closely with the so called "Jews" in order to take over the world!!!!The so called "Jews" are an intricate part of the devil's plan because the so called "Jews" are experts with money and finance.In your previous post about MONEY being the route of all evil, you made an interesting point how money is being used to transfer negative energy to people.When one thinks back on how the "Jews" were used to handle money in the beginning of printed currency, it's easy to understand how they learned how to manipulate and use money to control governments and markets!!!These so called "Jews" are NOT Jews, but are in fact Zionists, who's main objective is to control the world!!!The Christians know that they need to allign themselves with these people in order to bring about this "New World Order".Everything that we have talked about on this blog, ties in to the grand scheme of the devil!!!!!The Illuminati is a group of wealthy and influential businessmen, politicians, media people and other powerful types, that have banned together to trick people with propaganda and lies in order to achieve their goal of a one world government in which the whole world can then be controlled through big business and wealthy individuals. This is why socialism , communism, and anything else except capitalism are prime targets. They want nothing to be owned by any governments, so they can then own and control every country and it's people!!!!It's the devil!!!!!

Wed May 18, 12:49:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

>Everything that we have talked about on this blog, ties in to the grand scheme of the devil!!!!!

Soundboyz, I believe that's our mission! We were brought together by a divine force to try to enlighten and spark conversation.

"Where two or more are gathered in my name, there shall I be."

Wed May 18, 12:58:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Goldi said...

Imara who is this mysterious Pastor Steve?

Wed May 18, 01:12:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

^Goldi, he left a comment regarding Soundboyz' post on Marriage. Quick summary: I asked him to point me to where in the Bible God, NOT Jesus, spoke about Marriage, so that I could try to better understand his (and most people's) position. To make a long story short (because he certainly didn't!), he said that God didn't set "rules" for marriage, but that it was more of a "cultural tradition", that was sanctified by the church.

Wed May 18, 01:23:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Goldi said...

Hmm he made a point. There is such a thing as a spiritual marriage. If two people live together, share resources, yadda, yadda, yadda. Oops wrong post.

Wed May 18, 01:54:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

I actually expected him to be able to produce a scripture in the Bible that proved that marriage was "mandated" for a man and a woman by God. He couldn't! Marriage is in the mind and begins way before two people walk down the isle, but you're right... different post.

Wed May 18, 02:08:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Goldi said...

You know you could comment in my NEW post. Its just there lonely with 2 comments.

Wed May 18, 02:26:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Geekbird said...

I havent been here in a minute but here's my take...

Douche=Two Dogs

Simple algebra proves that...

Bush=Two Dogs

Wed May 18, 04:47:00 PM 2005  
Blogger musafir said...

Bush and truth don't go together. But how does one explain his support? Ignorance,apathy, and FEAR. Remember when many Americans rushed out to buy plastic sheeting and duct tape to protect their homes after the Dept of Homeland Security issued one of the color coded warnings? People have to be really scared out of their wits to do something so dumb. Duct tape and plastic sheeting to block poison gas! Slay me with dragons. The Bushies found the right button to push. They deserve credit for that.

Wed May 18, 04:57:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

Geekbird, nice to see you stopped by!

Thu May 19, 10:36:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

>Bush and truth don't go together.

Musafir, we certainly have the government that we deserve. If people don't start to truly think for themselves, Bush will be the downfall of this country. What will his "faithful" say then? They will be accessories to his crimes.

Thu May 19, 10:38:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Goldi said...

^ Its been so quiet the last two days. Hmmm, Soundboyz must be taking his ritalin.

Thu May 19, 02:16:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

>^ Its been so quiet the last two days. Hmmm, Soundboyz must be taking his ritalin.

LOL!! *whisper* I know... it's just not the same when he's not around.

Thu May 19, 02:30:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Goldi said...

*whisper* He's annoying but he keeps the comments going. Do you see how low my comments are?

Thu May 19, 03:00:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

>Do you see how low my comments are?

I know! Even our's are low! Usually by this time, we'd be nearing 100!

Thu May 19, 03:16:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

Hey, soundboyz sent me an e-mail with an explanation. Check out my post.

Thu May 19, 07:23:00 PM 2005  
Blogger KR said...

There is so much we cannot and do not know. It is very easy for us to lean back in our swivel chairs and make statements on the corruption running rampant in governments all over the world.

I believe that GW Bush believes that he is an upright and moral man acting in (what he believes) are the best interests of his country. I also believe that he is misguided and just what the US deserves... however, I'm not sure the rest of the world does. Still, he'll be gone in a few years. Hopefully we'll have a regime change.

Truth or lies, the consequences must be faced. Lets stop placing blame and start looking at the solutions. I'm beyond caring about the whys now. I'm just worried about the hows -- how are we going to get 'er done now? the US has lost its ground of moral superiority -- Abu Ghraib, etc put the nails in that coffin. What a pity.

Tue May 24, 06:45:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Kelly, I appreciate your honesty on the subject.I think that you are right about seeking solutions, but it is becoming more and more difficult to even get the truth from sources that are not being pressured by this administration !! How can anyone do anything when we don't even know the truth?

Wed May 25, 05:06:00 AM 2005  

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