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Thursday, April 28, 2005

The Brutal Truth...




For Americans that are not of color, police brutality is an abberation. For people of color, especially Blacks and Latinos, such behavior is common-place. Police brutality has always been a problem in the minority community, dating back to the Civil Rights Era, but in the past few years there has been a dramatic rise in the brutalization of minorities. The declaration of the "war on drugs", and tougher sentencing laws has perpetuated the criminalization of the black race, and has contributed to the rise in such crimes.

90% of black men can expect to have some sort of negative interaction- most times including arrest- with the law.







Granted, police officers have a tough job, and not all of them are "bad", but if police brutality is the result of a "few bad apples", why aren't more of them found guilty of the brutal crimes they commit?

To learn more about police brutality, click here. To find out how you can combat this problem , you can go here and just click on the link that says "what you can do".

69 Comments:

Blogger Goldi said...

Are you sure its only 90%? Every brotha I know has been hassled by the pigs...just because. This goes beyond age or class.

Thu Apr 28, 09:16:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>Every brotha I know has been hassled by the pigs...

WTF? Goldi, did you just step out of a 60's blacksploitation movie?LOL!!!!Yea sistah, I dig, them pigs ain't got nothin kosher to do except whoop ass on the brother man.Now slip me some skins, Foxxy!!

Thu Apr 28, 09:22:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Imara, I am happy to see that you brought up this topic. It is a very serious problem all over the country, especially in the big cities. It often goes unreported , but it is going on every day in this country.

Thu Apr 28, 09:25:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

Hey, don't y'all feel like the Lone Ranger here. I just got worked over with a flashlight last year. I still have respect for the police officers though.

Thu Apr 28, 09:32:00 AM 2005  
Blogger KR said...

I've been appalled by the reports of police brutality here in Portland.. an old woman, half-blind and deaf, was beaten by a cop because she was trying to keep him from doing something and she didn't get out of his way when he asked, and when he laid hands on her to move her, she reacted as through she was being attacked (she didn't realize he was a police officer, and she couldn't hear him). I've noticed a disturbing number of shootings involving blacks and nervous police officers and it sickens me. Thank you for the link to what I can do about it.

Thu Apr 28, 09:34:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> I just got worked over with a flashlight last year.

Two Dogs, what you do in the privacy of your bedroom with "police" is between you and the party that was paid for that encounter!

But seriously Two Dogs, no one is suggesting that people not respect the police. I think to bring forth the issue of police brutality is not an invite to disrespect officers!

Thu Apr 28, 09:47:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Kelly, I did not hear(no pun)about that , but it sounds like a tragic incident. That poor old lady.

I am suprised that you acknowledged that police brutality against blacks is a real issue. Usually, if people are not of the affected group, they tend not to experience the problen, which cause them to doubt it's validity.

Thu Apr 28, 09:51:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Nzyme said...

>Police abuse experts, and some police officials, refer to "problem" officers, by which they mean officers who either have significant records of abuse or significant records of complaints from the public, and who thus should receive special monitoring, training and counseling to counter the heightened risk that they will be involved in some future incident of misconduct or brutality.

As long as law enforcement agencies tend to consider themselves to be fraternal orders, "problem officers" WILL NOT receive special monitoring, training, and counseling because they are not really considered to have a "problem" by their peers. I worked for the Brazos County Office of the Sheriff for two years, during which I observed several infractions reported against officers who received a slap on the wrists. The REAL CORRUPTION often begins with the top officials. If they are BIGOTS, why would they find fault in displays of brutality by their "brothers?"

Thu Apr 28, 10:19:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

This problem is not a one way street. To lay this at the doorstep of racism or bigotry is wrong in my opinion. What I see is a lack of intelligence in the ones that are guilty of these crimes. It seems that these people are compensating for insecurities and trying to feed that by completely dominating another person.

The best thing that I did was not make a sound as I was bashed on the forearm with a 4D cell maglight. Deputy asked if I was going to make a sound, and I asked "Why don't you see."

The latest brutality that I have witnessed was lat year at Reagan International. The cop was a "problem officer" and had just gotten transferred out there. Black cop, white woman.

Thu Apr 28, 10:38:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

^ This is very true Nzyme. I recently saw a special on the LAPD and how corruption and brutality was able to go unchecked. It does have to do with a "brotherhood" mentality. Many of these officers form "gangs" or "orders" in which they live by their own secret code and rules. They often cover for each other by lying and intimidating others.

Before the civil rights era, it was common knowledge that police were active members of the KKK .They were involved in perpetrating crimes and being allowed to get away with it, due to the cooperation of the force. I think very little has changed .I think members of the KKK as well as the different mafia factions have many members that are officers and this allows them to operate with impunity.

Thu Apr 28, 10:41:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Nzyme said...

Ok, Two Dogs, let's remove the word "bigot" and replace it with "problem officers." If the head doesn't see a problem with the tail, the issue at hand will persist. Also, some of the incidents I witnessed were "black-on-black." I'll again state that people of a certain mindset don't see anything wrong with a race they consider inferior causing harm to its own members.

Thu Apr 28, 10:44:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> This problem is not a one way street. To lay this at the doorstep of racism or bigotry is wrong in my opinion.

Two Dogs, you are correct in saying that the problem of police brutality doesn't only stem from racism and bigotry. But, to say that racism and bigotry does not play some part in this problem is also wrong. It is documented that police officers were, and probably still are active members of the KKK. There was a time where the police would openly support the actions of the KKK because some of it's members were also officers.

Two Dogs, I agree with you that not all Police brutality stems from racism, but some of it does. I think most of it does.Just because police brutality also stems from other issues , does not mean that racism doesn't play a big part.

Thu Apr 28, 10:47:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

I would think that for the most part, the racism is such a small percentage as to not register. Think Rodney King.

Thu Apr 28, 10:50:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

Due to the nature of a police officer's job, it makes it extremely hard to "turn off" the adrenaline. Often times they take their stress and anger out on suspected criminals. The facts indicate that the suspected criminals that are most likely to face brutality are BLACK MEN. This is because of how black men are viewed in society.

Thu Apr 28, 11:08:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> I would think that for the most part, the racism is such a small percentage as to not register. Think Rodney King.

I would think that you wouldn't attribute police brutality to racism, because you don't have to experience it!!!Two Dogs, even though you experienced some form of police brutality, it does not mean that your incident is indicative of the other types of police brutality. Again, you won't ever experience police brutality based on race, so I don't expect you to even know that some brutality exists as a result of racism!! It's like racial profiling, I don't expect you to think that it's a widespread problem, because you're not a part of the affected group,even if you did get pulled over and harassed by the police!

Thu Apr 28, 11:13:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

soundboyz, I just don't deal with racism anymore. I understand that you do. The problem that I see with police just doesn't appear to be racism, it does seems to be a bunch of adrenaline junkies getting off beating up folks though. I guarantee if I see the deputy that whopped on me at a club, it's going to be fun though. I hope he doesn't have the presence of mind to scream like a little seven year old girl, "I'M A COP, I'M A COP."

Thu Apr 28, 11:25:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> soundboyz, I just don't deal with racism anymore. I understand that you do.

O.K....You have managed to "Go there", so lets. YOU "just don't deal with racism anymore"............... Two Dogs, when in your life have you ever had to deal with racism? I have seen your picture, and I must admit you are quite a handsome fellow......but a minority you are not!!!You can't speak about racism unless you are actually a victim of racism. It looks like you're white to me, so how you can be the victim of racism is beyond me. Don't tell me some crap about how you're 25%Native American either Two Dogs.You look and pass for white, so don't tell me about your experiences of racism because you're 25% anything. Try being 100% NIGGA!!!Then we'll have a heart to heart!!!!!!!

Thu Apr 28, 11:36:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

> The problem that I see with police just doesn't appear to be racism, it does seems to be a bunch of adrenaline junkies getting off beating up folks though.

Two Dogs, if you were a person of color, and were routinely treated like a "suspect"- even without cause- by police, you might see where racism comes into this debate.

Thu Apr 28, 11:37:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>Two Dogs, if you were a person of color

IF........IF.........NOT 25%whatever........IF!!!!!!!!!!!And I still didn't forget about how you just posted my supathug picture in the comments section of the last post either!!!That was WRONG!!!!!

Thu Apr 28, 11:43:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

Well, I do seem to have a reputation. Things are never Black and White in the racism department, plus you have to understand that I live in a Black majority city.

Y'all will have to admit that hating on whitey is a popular sport.

Thu Apr 28, 11:49:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

>And I still didn't forget about how you just posted my supathug picture in the comments section of the last post either!!!That was WRONG!!!!!

I just saw that...

THAT IS THE FUNNIEST SH*T EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thu Apr 28, 11:51:00 AM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

>Y'all will have to admit that hating on whitey is a popular sport.

Two Dogs, you're right. It is prevalent in the black community because of all that they deal with. If you live in a predominately black community, you must see this all the time?

Thu Apr 28, 11:55:00 AM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>Things are never Black and White in the racism department, plus you have to understand that I live in a Black majority city.

TWO DOGS FUCKIN'!!!!!!You know when I call you by your full name, i'm pissed!!!Listen, again, I don't expect you to think of things as black and white when it comes to race!!!I expect you to think of things as white!!!!!And what does living in a black majority city have to do with you personally dealing with racism?

>Y'all will have to admit that hating on whitey is a popular sport.

If it was a sport, I wouldn't have a problem with this statement, but to say that this is a sport, just shows me that you obviously don't understand the full plight of minorities. You and Kelly should have kids, that way her 2% this, and 6% that can combine with your 25% Native American and maybe you both can produce a true minority. Then send him/her/it into society and find out what's really going on!!!

Thu Apr 28, 12:01:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Oh, thanks a LOT WHITEY!!! Imara just saw the "supathug" photo and now she thinks i'm a joke!!!!!!Good going WHITEY!!!!

Thu Apr 28, 12:12:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

"Supathug", do you fly, too? LOL!!!!!!!

I just love how you have the little hairs on your chest showing, too. It makes you look soooo manly!! LOL!!!!

Thu Apr 28, 01:07:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Goldi said...

Soundboyz - F*** the pigs and the MAN! Diggit.

Two Dogs - most white people think issues are in black & white - cause y'all are white.I know you dig drag queens of color and all, but that does not earn you an i-empathaize-with-all-of-you-monorities card.

Thu Apr 28, 01:12:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

>Are you sure its only 90%? Every brotha I know has been hassled by the pigs...just because.

Same here Goldi. 90% is just what the statistics show. There are plently of "incidents" that go unreported for one reason or another, so I am sure the true number is 100%, or d*mn near close.

Thu Apr 28, 01:16:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

What I have said regarding this is that I just don't think that it's racism for the most part. I guess that maybe in NYC or some other area where racism is an overt thing it might be. But, here in the South, you know who your enemies are. racists are pretty much vocal in there comments. "You are one of the good ones." Shit like that.

Assault by the police here is probably not racism because it's a majority Black city and an overwhelmingly majority Black police force. I do know that ther are instances. But I think other causes are more prevalent.

Thu Apr 28, 01:28:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> Soundboyz - F*** the pigs and the MAN! Diggit.

Right on sistah!!! Power to the people ...

Thu Apr 28, 01:29:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>so I am sure the true number is 100%, or d*mn near close.

O.K. We don't need the ghetto gallop poll to give us their stats. Let's stick to the one's with some credibility!!

Thu Apr 28, 01:31:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Nzyme said...

>Racists are pretty much vocal in there comments. "You are one of the good ones." Shit like that.


Two Dogs,

That's crock FULL of bullshit. Covert racism is alive and well in the South. It's just combined with a heaping portion of discrimination!!

Thu Apr 28, 01:36:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Two Dogs, although you might be correct when it comes to your city, your city is one of many in your state, not to mention the country. It may be that your city has a majority black force, but this is not the case in say....Tupelo. You know what happened in Tupelo right?

Thu Apr 28, 01:41:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>That's crock FULL of bullshit. Covert racism is alive and well in the South. It's just combined with a heaping portion of discrimination!!

How would he know? He probably thinks because he hangs out with the homeys, there is no more racism!!!Yea, Two Dogs, that's crock full of bullshit!!!!

Thu Apr 28, 01:44:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

Nzyme, truthfully it doesn't happen in Jackson. If anything, it's the other way around. Hating on whitey is bigger here. Black Mayor, Black City Council, 90% Black city employees.

And soundboyz, Tupelo as well is majority Black, maybe not to the point of Jackson but close. And I don't know what you are referring to about what happened.

Thu Apr 28, 01:52:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> "Supathug", do you fly, too? LOL!!!!!!!

I just love how you have the little hairs on your chest showing, too. It makes you look soooo manly!! LOL!!!!

Cut the Crap Imara, before I beat you down like you stole something in Tupalo, and I'm the white cop that caught you!!!

Thu Apr 28, 01:52:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

When did this thing happen in Tupelo? Was it recently?

Thu Apr 28, 02:05:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> When did this thing happen in Tupelo? Was it recently?

Well , basically the incident was how Tupalo got it's name. There were 2 Blacks living there, they're below now!It's funnier when you hear it!!!

But seriously , all you have to do is google police brutality in Tupalo, and you will see !!!!

Thu Apr 28, 02:12:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Goldi said...

two dogs > Hating on whitey is bigger here. Black Mayor, Black City Council, 90% Black city employees... so if one see's a minority run community they all most hate whitey? so, the communities that are white run are "living the dream" since all do as massa says?

your views are very askewed.

as for people of color that are in law enforcement or the military. they have been conditioned to think a cerain way. some of the go beyond the *ahem* call of duty to prove their worthiness.

Thu Apr 28, 02:29:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

>O.K. We don't need the ghetto gallop poll to give us their stats. Let's stick to the one's with some credibility!!

Soundboyz, that was uncalled for. KISS MY ...!

Thu Apr 28, 02:32:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>your views are very askewed.

This is very accurate!!!!

>as for people of color that are in law enforcement or the military. they have been conditioned to think a cerain way. some of the go beyond the *ahem* call of duty to prove their worthiness.

Good point Goldi, this reminds me of the comment that the muslim soldier said about his unit in Kuwait. He was the one that opened fire on his own unit and killed some of his own. He said that he was often berated and abused for being the only black AND muslim in his unit. He also spoke of the racist mentality the whole unit had and how they all had tatoos of the confederate flag. They also formed a brotherhood or fraternity that was hell bent on killing as many Arabs as possible!!!

Lastly , and this is the most important in my opinion. These men and women are going to come home and become our police , fire fighters, security guards, correction officers and our politicians.

Thu Apr 28, 02:37:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>Soundboyz, that was uncalled for. KISS MY ...!

Sorry Imara, that was mean and uncalled for.But why would you tell me to kiss your eye?.....that's crazy.

Thu Apr 28, 02:39:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Goldi said...

Soundboyz - i remember what my high school English teacher Ms. Dabbs said, "...the worst guys in your neighborhood become cops". i witnesed that first hand when some college "buddies" became law enforcement officers.

Imara - ignore his "ignant" ass and go pick up your gifts at my spizzot.

Thu Apr 28, 02:47:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> >Soundboyz, that was uncalled for. KISS MY ...!

Imara , next time you should make this symbol .....(() :O ..see, i'm kissing it!!

Thu Apr 28, 02:53:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>mara - ignore his "ignant" ass and go pick up your gifts at my spizzot.

I hope you ladies aren't dealing in "personal massagers" on this blog!!!!!!I will call police to beat that (()!!.Please stick to the topic today!!

Thu Apr 28, 02:55:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

To jump back a few comments, Goldi, I was not saying that about the police or city officials. Except for one City council member, we have pretty good race relations.

I was not saying that there was a racial problem per se, just that if there was someone holding the chains, it would be the Blacks here.

And soundboyz, I went back seven pages on Google and can't find anything but things to do in Tupelo, there are no references to anby bad stuff. Help me out here.

Thu Apr 28, 03:06:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>And soundboyz, I went back seven pages on Google and can't find anything but things to do in Tupelo, there are no references to anby bad stuff. Help me out here.

Come on Two Dogs!!!!!! Go to Google and type in"police brutality in Tubalo".

Thu Apr 28, 03:08:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

>Imara - ignore his "ignant" ass and go pick up your gifts at my spizzot.

Goldi, thanks for the gifts. They are much appreciated. Many blessings with the fair.

Thu Apr 28, 03:13:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>Goldi, thanks for the gifts. They are much appreciated. Many blessings with the fair.

Now Imara, what the hell are you going to do with a bunch of booze and some gay men?You women are sure weird!!!

Anyway, That was an interesting Giraffe huh? I didn't know Goldi was so talented. I mean how did she make that out of her old chest hair?Amazing!!!

Thu Apr 28, 03:26:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

The only city that I know like that is Tupelo. There is no Tubalo that I know of, not in Mississippi anyway.

Thu Apr 28, 03:42:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Goldi said...

thanks imara!

soundboyz - i didn't make it (one of the other girls did) i explain how its done in my reply. hey don't mess with mr.-extralong-name-and-no-longer-has-loc's-soap opera-guy because i'm a big Andromeda fan (and he is *sniff* no longer on the show). he reminds me of a former boyfriend and the http://www.rundu.com site was down. and don't you dare talk about Antonio Banderas. NO BODY BETTER TALK BAD ABOUT ANTONIO! NO BODY!

now, i must go be peaceful and tranquil and go create art!

Thu Apr 28, 04:41:14 PM 2005

Thu Apr 28, 03:42:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

>Now Imara, what the hell are you going to do with a bunch of booze and some gay men?

First off, it takes a gay man to spot one... Soundboyz??

Thu Apr 28, 03:49:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

> The only city that I know like that is Tupelo. There is no Tubalo that I know of, not in Mississippi anyway.

Cut the crap Two Dogs, I originally said Tupelo. It was a typo the last time!!!

Now, Go to google and type in "police brutality in Tupelo.

Thu Apr 28, 03:53:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>now, i must go be peaceful and tranquil and go create art!


Translation: I gotta go hit the booze heavy and lay down for a few!!!!

Thu Apr 28, 03:55:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

>First off, it takes a gay man to spot one... Soundboyz??

Right Imara, you got me .....that's it. I was saving this for pride week, but since you figured it out , I have to admit that....... your DAD is Gay!!!!!!LOL!!!!

(()...now kiss it!!!

Thu Apr 28, 03:58:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

What I found was an article written by a professor saying that he was involved in race riots in 1978 in Tupelo. What I found about race riots in Tupelo in 1978 was nothing. soundboyz, I grew up about an hour and a half from Tupelo and I was 13 at the time. I remember nothing about it and can't find anything other than the one guy's account. While I am not saying that he is lying, he is not telling the truth about the KKK starting back up in Tupelo. It got it's rebirth in Gasden, Alabama. About 200 miles from Tupelo. I will say this also, I have lived in Mississippi my entire life, except for eight months and I have NEVER met anyone in the Klan. I know that htye were here, but I think that they are long gone now. As a matter of fact, the KKK had to bring people in from Georgia to picket up in Philadelphia a few weeks back. People are very much mistaken about the South these days.

Thu Apr 28, 04:13:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Two Dogs, you yourself admit to knowing racist people who want nothing more than to kill blacks and jews. You have written this before in one of your comments.Just because you don't claim to know of any KKK members, does not mean that they are not alive and well in Mississippi.

But the good thing is, if you don't know any, then you must only associate yourself with well educated people. I applaud you for not contributing to that ignorance. But trust me Two Dogs, they are alive and well, as our politicians, police etc.Even up north, they are everywhere!!

Thu Apr 28, 04:20:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

My argument is that here in the South, our racism is much more Overt. If folks don't like you they will tell you. And believe what you want to about race relations down here. I think that we are light years ahead of other places.

If you want to see hate, try to get a Black man into Asia or a Jew into Saudi.

Thu Apr 28, 04:40:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Mr. Dogs, I have no doubt that racism is much more overt in the south, but racism is also covert EVERYWHERE!!!I understand your point about other forms of racism in different places. I am just dealing with racism as a cause of police brutality here in America. Mr. Dogs, if you want to write about the injustice that blacks face in China, or that Jews face in the Middle East,I will be more than happy to read about it.

Thu Apr 28, 04:57:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Which reminds me Two Dogs, do you know what they call blacks in China?...................Nothing!!!!There are NO blacks in China!!!!!Except for Kobe Bryant that one time he visited the Great Wall. But they had heavy Chinese security around.......yea , to protect their little girls from Kobe!!!!

Thu Apr 28, 05:46:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Daedalus said...

i live in DC, and the police creep me out, too, and I'm a white female.

shouldn't someone be asking WHY there is so much police brutality? it's one thing to complain about it, but who's doing anything to stop it?

btw, reverse racism isn't going to stop the problem

Fri Apr 29, 02:29:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Hi Daedalus,thank you for commenting.
I don't think reverse racism is going to stop it either. I think reverse racism is just one of the many bi products of racism.

I think we did offer something to help stop police brutality. If you click on the link in the post, it will provide you with a section that informs you about what you can do to combat this very serious problem.

Fri Apr 29, 02:50:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Patches said...

As you all know that here in Cincinnati white policeman shooting young black men got so far out of hand that it took riots to get Cincinnati City Council to do anything about it. After listening to all the usual spin from city government and police department, the black community’s frustration boiled over. The city government reacted to the riots with increased police training, rule changes and community involvement that dramatically reduced police shootings too near zero. But driving while black is still a fairly dangerous occupation in Cincinnati. Tazers are the weapons of choice here in Cincinnati as other cities that have them, the police seem to love being able to shoot people and not kill them. Saves a ton of paper work.
Growing up in the 1950’s overt racism was easy to see in the south (white only, no niggers); in the north it wasn’t as overt but understood just the same. So supporting LBJ and the civil rights laws of the 1960’s was easy. Racism is not so easily understood today, it is a more convert and repressed emotion that laws have no effect on. White suburbanites don’t have a clue of inter-city life. Blacks killing blacks, blacks selling drugs to blacks, is not our problem and finding answers is not our responsibility. We see it as more of a crime problem then a social economic problem so more police is the answer. We don’t see how taxes for schools are not equal and fair, we don’t see how public funding of professional sports complexes takes away from inter-city communities, we don’t understand how the routing of interstate highways through cities isolates the poorer sections of town. Is this racism? Most likely but I don’t know how much. How to fight it, again I don’t know. I do know it’s going to be a long hard job.

Sat Apr 30, 08:47:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

Patches, It's good to hear the perspective of someone who has experienced a little life.I don't know how to translate dog years, but I am guessing that you have lived long enough to have experienced many of the things that we can only write about.

I Do understand that dealing with racism is a seemingly insurmountable problem.It makes the task seem impossible when you realize that the affected group is suffering from many serious side effects, which makes the problem even harder to deal with.

Sat Apr 30, 10:04:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Patches said...

Soundboyz
In 1954 I was 10 years old when my family took a vacation through Virginia and North Carolina. Seeing the white only, colored only signs burned a negative hole in my brain that’s still there to this day. It took another ten years or so to understand what I saw but even so I understood something was wrong.
This was in the New York Times.
While Devils Get a Home, Newark's Poor Keep Looking
By DAMIEN CAVE

Published: May 1, 2005


NEWARK, April 29 - Shereef Cheatham, a single mother of four, had been waiting five years for a rent assistance voucher when the Newark Housing Authority diverted $3.9 million in federal funds from the program in 2003 to pay for property near a proposed hockey arena downtown. She is still waiting
More than 21,000 people were on the waiting list for the vouchers when the housing authority used the $3.9 million, a small portion of the total budgeted, to buy 12 privately owned lots. The purchase came after a lawsuit thwarted the city's plan to seize them through condemnation. Those lots were crucial to building the arena, which was at the time intended to be the home for both the New Jersey Devils hockey team and the New Jersey Nets basketball team. The arena, now for the Devils alone, is scheduled to open in 2007
1 dog year equals 7 human years, so that makes Patches 434 years old.

Sat Apr 30, 11:59:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

I just thought about this, under my system of reparations, Patches would be one of the people that would be interviewed to see if they even wanted reparations.

Well?

Sun May 01, 12:39:00 PM 2005  
Blogger soundboyz said...

He said dog years.Two Dogs, you know you're not really like 439 years old right?

Sun May 01, 02:50:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Two Dogs said...

He also said that he was 10 in '54, that's before my cut-off. And I am forty. That might seem pretty old to a 16 year old, but really it's not.

Sun May 01, 03:28:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Imara said...

>Seeing the white only, colored only signs burned a negative hole in my brain that’s still there to this day.

Patches, although segregation was before my time, I grew up in the South, and have heard many, many stories of the hatred that was practiced.

You're right- racism isn't easily understood today. It's like the air we breathe, you know it's there, but it can be hard to discribe to someone that doesn't understand it.

Mon May 02, 01:08:00 PM 2005  
Blogger Chip Morgan said...

Good Job :))

Chip http://www.focusedinterview.com

Sun Jan 22, 09:00:00 AM 2006  

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